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Jackie: We live in a world of selfies and self promotion.we’re talking about privacy and our right to it.
Richard: Yes. It’s.. it’s ironic in some ways in that there’s a big discussion at the moment about privacy and the government and organisations knowing our every move, but then on the other side of the coin people are putting up all this information on the Internet, on Facebook, on Instagram all the time as well, so...
Jackie: Yes, it’s interesting because people seem to be obsessed, don’t they, with taking photos of themselves. We mentioned the... the........................ the
selfies and letting everyone know where they are, what they’re doing and who they’re doing it with.
Richard: But they don’t like the Government to know too much about their activities though, do they?
Jackie: Yes you’re right, Richard, because in our public lives we’re being watched and recorded wherever we go: in the supermarket, at the bus station, walking down the road. There are so-called security cameras catching our every move.
Richard: Yes but... but even those people who are aware of privacy and have all the privacy settings turned on their social media for instance um… that goes out the window as soon as they turn their mobile phones on.
Jackie: Okay, what do you mean by that?
Richard: Well, the phone companies for a start know exactly where you are and they often give that information to government, corporations whatever; you cannot be truly private.
Jackie: So, as soon as you turn on your mobile phone, someone can find out where you are?
Richard: Well, of course. You have to connect to the mobile phone masts, don’t you? And they know where those......................... those places are. It’s very easy to find out where people are.
Jackie: And... and do they know who you’re talking to, as well?
Richard: Of course, they’ve got records of the numbers, the telephone numbers you call. Not the content of the call, that’s not important, but who your contacts are, very important.
Jackie: But it seems to me, Richard, that actually people don’t really care, they... they um... they put up so much personal information about themselves on social media and seem to be happy to publicise what they’re doing. I mean maybe it doesn’t matter that there is… that there are security cameras everywhere as well. I mean maybe it would seem hypocritical to complain about, or worry about that kind of um... privacy invasion if you yourself are being so public about your private life.
Richard: Well, it depends, Jackie, doesn’t it? On social media, people choose what to put up on Facebook or whatever but when they’re walking down the high street they’re being filmed, they don’t know they’re being filmed, you don’t know you’re being watched. You don’t know how that information is going to be used.
Jackie: So you’ve kind of lost control then of your... of your privacy.
Richard: Exactly. For instance you could be interested in the environment of course and go... go to a rally and then perhaps if the police are observing this rally your photograph could be taken, you could become part of the police records, they might think you’re an activist and they might take that further and all you’re doing is just following a load of people down the street.
Jackie: Because there are cases, Richard, of the police using surveillance, CCTV, and misidentifying people and um... tragic cases.
Richard: Yes, now I remember a few years ago a Brazilian man was shot by police in London and he was totally innocent.
Jackie: Yes, misidentification using those cameras. So going back then, Richard, to what people put on their Instagram or Facebook pages, the fact that they advertise everything about their lives, maybe people should think twice about that because you don’t really know who is looking at the sites, who’s recording it and to what end they are using that information.