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Jackie: The problem with the fashion industry is that it relies on consumerism and new trends. The more clothes people buy, the happier the industry is.
Richard: Yes, we’re looking at how we can be fashionable and save the planet at the same time.
Jackie: Richard, did you know that there was a problem with buying cotton things?
Jackie: Oh, you did?
Richard: Yes. It uses a lot of water.
Jackie: Yeah and it has a really negative impact on the environment as a result and also pesticides, they use a lot of pesticides. So people are trying to turn away from using cotton.
Richard: Mmm, that’s interesting because it has got a reputation for being a natural fibre so. But it does use a lot of water. So what are the alternatives then, Jackie?
Jackie: Well, not polyester, Richard.
Richard: [laughs] No, because I don’t like polyester.
Jackie: Do you know it takes 200 years to decompose in... in land-fill, polyester clothes.
Jackie: I know. So in fact the industry is looking at making clothes out of things like hemp...
Richard: Ah yes, that’s a good idea.
Jackie:.......... bamboo. [Richard: Bamboo clothes?] Yes, and lyocell which is made from..?
Richard: Lyocell? Wool is it? Jackie: No, it’s eucalyptus trees.
Jackie: Okay, something else is: less is more. Richard: [laughs] What do you mean by that?
Jackie: Well, I... it doesn’t really count for us but actually people are buying more and more clothes.
Richard: Mmm, I know and it’s very... the clothes are very cheap, aren’t they?
So that’s why people buy clothes and then just throw them away afterwards.
Jackie: Cheap clothes, often poorly made [Richard: Yes] and replaced every year ending up in landfill. [Richard: Yes] Okay, so it’s much better to buy more expensive but better quality items.
Richard: Well, we’ve been doing that for years.
Jackie: Yeah, but on the whole I think, it’s... it’s become the norm not to do that. Don’t shop, swap.
Richard: [laughs] Right
Jackie: Okay, sometimes, you know sometimes you’re bored with the clothes that you’re wearing, “I just don’t want to wear that anymore”, but there is a possibility that you might have a friend who would like to wear it. [Richard: Yes] So you say, “Okay, I don’t want to wear this shirt anymore, I’m fed up with it, you know, would you like it? Um... and have you got something that I could have of yours?”
Richard: Is that the same as buying at the second-hand shops?
Jackie: Well, that’s buying, isn’t it, Richard, rather than swapping but if you do want to get some money for your clothes um... it is possible of course to buy and sell second-hand clothes online.
Richard: Right, okay. I think the problem with that is though, it’s... you’re talking about fashion as well, as fashions change.
Jackie: That’s a very good point- Richard, but actually a lot of second-hand clothes have become more fashionable now, [Richard: Again, retro] Vintage.
Richard: [laughs] Right, okay.
Jackie: And... and sites like Etsy and Ebay are very popular for... for buying second hand clothes.
Richard: And as we know trends come and go and they come back again, don’t they?
Jackie: Exactly. Something else to think about Richard.[Richard: Right] Learn to sew. Now do you remember...
Richard: I’m not sure about that one.
Jackie: No, but do you remember, it wasn’t that long ago that someone like your dad, once the collar on his shirt wore out what... what did you mum do?
Richard: Got a new collar, they had collar-less shirts, didn’t they and they replaced the collar.
Jackie: Not necessarily replaced the collar they’d turn it round and it’s as good as new because the worn bit is now at the back and you can’t see it.
Richard: Okay, I didn’t know that but I’ll buy that. Jackie: So, learn to sew and/or find a repair service.
Richard: Mmm, yes Jackie, all these things are all well and good but I think at the end of the day you’ve really just got to buy things that you really need and really, really want.
Richard: You know, ask yourself, “How often am I going to wear this thing?”, “Do I really need it?”, “Have I got something similar that I already wear?” My mum, she used to buy clothes and then tell me she’d never, never worn them.
Jackie: Yeah, so it’s a change of attitude, isn’t it? Yeah, so you can look nice and help to save the planet too.